they broke the law. you know the law? they broke the law. if you break the law you're a criminal, jorge. >> at the same time there are millions of americans who benefit from their work and thousands of american companies who hire them. and we don't call them illegal so we have to talk about co-responsibility. they are here because we benefit from the work. (applause) >> stephen: i don't have a comeback for that so they'll edit it out of the interview. (laughter) >> what happens is they harvest the food that we have for breakfast and for lunch. they're building the homes where we live. they're taking care of our kids. so i think we have to give them a solution. self-deportation is not a solution. >> stephen: what is the solution? wave a magic wand and everybody gets to stay? >> we have to give them comprehensive immigration reform. >> stephen: amnesty? >> it's not an amnesty because they would go to the back of the line. but they are here because we need them and they came here simply because we are hiring them. we have to be responsible. >>